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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>上个星期进行了一次面试，在面试之前也对这个公司有一定的了解，知道它不是一个大公司，公司还在起步阶段。但是岗位是主管工程师，是一个不错的岗位，所以周五的时候就屁颠屁颠的面试去了。</p>
<p>到公司第一印象是这不是一个公司，而是一个车间，连个正式的办公室都没有，晕啊～更加晕的就是和经理的对话（只取精华部分）：</p>
<p><a href="http://www.caxblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/interview-001.gif"><span id="more-407"></span><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-408" title="interview-001" src="http://www.caxblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/interview-001.gif" alt="" width="576" height="437" /></a></p>
<blockquote><p>经理：你来我这里就对了，我这里就是需要你这样的技术尖子……</p>
<p>我问：你公司现在主要是做什么产品？</p>
<p>经理：这个很不确定，我刚才给你看都是过去式，这些产品以后我们都不会再做，具体做什么产品这个很难确定下来，在乎你拿到什么样的单子……</p>
<p>我问：这里一天上班几个小时？</p>
<p>经理：这个不确定，有可能是10个小时，有个可能是12个小时，这个在乎工作而看，你有本事4个小时干完就可以去睡觉（可能吗？）……我这里是7点半上班，6点半下班……</p>
<p>我问：那这里一周上班几天？</p>
<p>经理：这个不确定，有可能上6天，也可能上7天，这个要看项目的进度，说不准……</p>
<p>我问：那待遇方面怎么样？</p>
<p>经理：你问这个问题真的是浪费时间，我希望你可以低调的进入公司，然后再慢慢干，不超过两年你就可以成为我这里的技术核心……</p>
<p>我再问：那工资如何？</p>
<p>经理：这个很不确定……</p>
<p>我再三逼问之下，经理说：这样吧，你进来第一个月给你XXXX，第二个月再给你XXXX+500，第三个月就是未知数，主要看你的工作能力了，这个都是我们说了算的，老板是不可以抠门的。</p></blockquote>
<p>在那么多的不确定因素之下，我很确定这次面试失败。这个经理想把所有问题模糊化，然后等入职后再慢慢宰割！想一下这样的工程服务公司，没有自己的产品，主要还是做一些安装性的服务工作，那招人做产品设计干什么呢？</p>
<p>我不是在看不起这样的公司，只是认为一天到晚没日没夜的工作很不值得。人生出来不是为了忙碌的工作，起码要找一个有规定的作息时间，加班是另外一回事。</p>
<p>算了还是老老实实的等到年末吧。最后感慨一句，今年工作真的是不好找～～</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[由于偶还没有跳过糙，不晓得辞职申请该怎么样写。虽知网络的力量是伟大的，只要Google一下基本上是可以满足你的一切欲望，本想找一篇正规点的辞职申请参考一下，却不知世界上还有此牛人，各位跳槽认识可以参考参考！（源自新华社区） 尊敬的领导： 古语云：天要下雨，娘要嫁人，生死有命，富贵在天。我本来想在培养我的某某公司里工作终老，但生活是残酷的，巨大的生活压力迫使我抬起头来，去遥望那碧蓝的天空。这时，我多么羡慕那自由飞翔的小鸟，还有那些坐得起飞机的人啊！每个月的开头，我会满心欢喜地拿着微薄的工资去还上个月的欠债；每个月的月中，为了省钱我会竭尽全力勒紧裤带；每个月的月末，生活的本色就变成了借钱和躲债。 人比人得死，这是句俗话，但确实是亘古不变的真理。看着身边一个个兄弟都“出口”了，我这心里跟火烧似的。看着朋友每月拿着占俺月工资15%的房贴、车贴，还有五六百的高温费，几千几万的奖金，俺这心里就琢磨着，这人与人的差距咋就这么大呢？ 人生数年，弹指一挥间。是的，公司有培训计划，有培养机制，公司承诺会尽量把每一位员工培养成为有理想、有道德、有文化、有纪律的四有新人，工资会涨的，面包会有的，可俺咋就看不明白，你们培养俺就要三年五年的，人家咋不用培养就收留了俺呢？人家咋就看得起俺，舍得多给俺钱呢？俺的人生还有多少年来给你培养？到时候，人老珠黄，黄花菜都凉啦！龙入浅水遭虾戏，虎落平原被犬欺啊！ 佛曰：一枯一荣，皆有定数。圣经上说：欠着我的，我会记下。梁朝伟说：“出来混，总归是要还的。”电视上也说：“要爽靠自己！” 因此，本人因为个人原因，决定离开已经服务多年的某某公司。请求领导批准。 © Alex for Just A Blog, 2008. &#124; Permalink &#124; 7 comments &#124; Add to del.icio.us &#124; Follow me @attacker_hu Post tags: 工作, 跳槽, 辞职<table class="wumii-related-items" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3" border="0"  style="clear: both;">
    
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>由于偶还没有跳过糙，不晓得辞职申请该怎么样写。虽知网络的力量是伟大的，只要Google一下基本上是可以满足你的一切欲望，本想找一篇正规点的辞职申请参考一下，却不知世界上还有此牛人，各位跳槽认识可以参考参考！（源自<a href="http://news.xinhuanet.com/forum/2007-07/19/content_6394873.htm" target="_blank">新华社区</a>）</p>
<blockquote><p>尊敬的领导：</p>
<p>古语云：天要下雨，娘要嫁人，生死有命，富贵在天。我本来想在培养我的某某公司里工作终老，但生活是残酷的，巨大的生活压力迫使我抬起头来，去遥望那碧蓝的天空。这时，我多么羡慕那自由飞翔的小鸟，还有那些坐得起飞机的人啊！每个月的开头，我会满心欢喜地拿着微薄的工资去还上个月的欠债；每个月的月中，为了省钱我会竭尽全力勒紧裤带；每个月的月末，生活的本色就变成了借钱和躲债。</p>
<p>人比人得死，这是句俗话，但确实是亘古不变的真理。看着身边一个个兄弟都“出口”了，我这心里跟火烧似的。看着朋友每月拿着占俺月工资15%的房贴、车贴，还有五六百的高温费，几千几万的奖金，俺这心里就琢磨着，这人与人的差距咋就这么大呢？</p>
<p>人生数年，弹指一挥间。是的，公司有培训计划，有培养机制，公司承诺会尽量把每一位员工培养成为有理想、有道德、有文化、有纪律的四有新人，工资会涨的，面包会有的，可俺咋就看不明白，你们培养俺就要三年五年的，人家咋不用培养就收留了俺呢？人家咋就看得起俺，舍得多给俺钱呢？俺的人生还有多少年来给你培养？到时候，人老珠黄，黄花菜都凉啦！龙入浅水遭虾戏，虎落平原被犬欺啊！</p>
<p>佛曰：一枯一荣，皆有定数。圣经上说：欠着我的，我会记下。梁朝伟说：“出来混，总归是要还的。”电视上也说：“要爽靠自己！”</p>
<p>因此，本人因为个人原因，决定离开已经服务多年的某某公司。请求领导批准。</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[今天原本是要到井岸去把零件拉回来，谁知早上要不到车，主管就和外面的人开个货车出去了，我就免了一顿奔波。这段时间不知道为何总是喜欢打开博客来看看，想写点东西，但是又不知道该写些什么，可能是我上班有太多的无聊时间了，还是我个人变得那么懒散了！？不过我这到在这样下去的话我自己就会变得很颓废，我以前有一个同事一上班就在打开电脑，对着一个零件发呆一天！不想在这个环境下把我的一些想法和热情磨灭掉…… 今天我打开了我师兄的博客看了一下，觉得他前段时间也在迷茫的斗争中，碰巧我现在也有一点这样的想法！到底是去还是留？传说中的“黄金十月”还没有过去，今天是倒数第二天。我想是不是应该在这两天上网广撒网呢？？今天我在前程网上看到了东风日产在招底盘工程师，自己很想去应聘。但是自己从来都没有搞过底盘，人家会不会要我这个外行呢？就算进去了到底是做研发工作还是把小日本设计的底盘修修补补了事呢？现在苦恼的就是工作的事情。而且是在一个前途渺茫的部门上班，我不得不为我的工作而担忧！ 今天刚有一个同事办完手续，接着又有一个同事地上辞职申请。或许这段时间同事们都有想法了，怪不得我们。公司从这个月开始就要为上市做好准备，其中的一个调整就是要调整我们的工资，在上市以后再给我们补发。上市要等到明年8月份才知道能不能成功。在这个期间工资只有以前的62%，公司连这招都出来，看来是要背水一战，不成功就成仁了！项目进展不好，工资没有加上去，有很多只吹牛不干活的人，这些因素已经把部门搞得人心惶惶了。除了这些还有一些公司高层的错误决定，公司现在认为研发就是把别人东西买回来自己组装在一起就可以了，根本用不上花那么多的人力物力去做。所以我们在软件和电气方面一直都没有招到一个经验丰富好老工程师，没办法公司舍不得花钱，以为全部东西都可以买回来，用不着工资那么高的人。那真的是可悲的，我上网看到SONY研发一台液晶显示器都搞了8年，投入了几个亿的资金。而我们想投入1000万就像做一台2000万的设备，有点天方夜谭的感觉…… 可能这个就是民营企业的通病，总是想走捷径，舍不得花钱去研发，结果搞出来的东西不伦不类！ 现在只能在这里忍耐，我还不可以一走了之，毕竟我身上还有项目，我只能是做最好的准备，同时也做好最坏的打算！希望明年有更好的机会，希望在明天！ © Alex for Just A Blog, 2007. &#124; Permalink &#124; No comment &#124; Add to del.icio.us &#124; Follow me @attacker_hu Post tags: 工作, 跳槽<table class="wumii-related-items" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3" border="0"  style="clear: both;">
    
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>今天原本是要到井岸去把零件拉回来，谁知早上要不到车，主管就和外面的人开个货车出去了，我就免了一顿奔波。这段时间不知道为何总是喜欢打开博客来看看，想写点东西，但是又不知道该写些什么，可能是我上班有太多的无聊时间了，还是我个人变得那么懒散了！？不过我这到在这样下去的话我自己就会变得很颓废，我以前有一个同事一上班就在打开电脑，对着一个零件发呆一天！不想在这个环境下把我的一些想法和热情磨灭掉……</p>
<p>今天我打开了我师兄的博客看了一下，觉得他前段时间也在迷茫的斗争中，碰巧我现在也有一点这样的想法！到底是去还是留？传说中的“黄金十月”还没有过去，今天是倒数第二天。我想是不是应该在这两天上网广撒网呢？？今天我在前程网上看到了东风日产在招底盘工程师，自己很想去应聘。但是自己从来都没有搞过底盘，人家会不会要我这个外行呢？就算进去了到底是做研发工作还是把小日本设计的底盘修修补补了事呢？现在苦恼的就是工作的事情。而且是在一个前途渺茫的部门上班，我不得不为我的工作而担忧！</p>
<p>今天刚有一个同事办完手续，接着又有一个同事地上辞职申请。或许这段时间同事们都有想法了，怪不得我们。公司从这个月开始就要为上市做好准备，其中的一个调整就是要调整我们的工资，在上市以后再给我们补发。上市要等到明年8月份才知道能不能成功。在这个期间工资只有以前的62%，公司连这招都出来，看来是要背水一战，不成功就成仁了！项目进展不好，工资没有加上去，有很多只吹牛不干活的人，这些因素已经把部门搞得人心惶惶了。除了这些还有一些公司高层的错误决定，公司现在认为研发就是把别人东西买回来自己组装在一起就可以了，根本用不上花那么多的人力物力去做。所以我们在软件和电气方面一直都没有招到一个经验丰富好老工程师，没办法公司舍不得花钱，以为全部东西都可以买回来，用不着工资那么高的人。那真的是可悲的，我上网看到SONY研发一台液晶显示器都搞了8年，投入了几个亿的资金。而我们想投入1000万就像做一台2000万的设备，有点天方夜谭的感觉……</p>
<p>可能这个就是民营企业的通病，总是想走捷径，舍不得花钱去研发，结果搞出来的东西不伦不类！</p>
<p>现在只能在这里忍耐，我还不可以一走了之，毕竟我身上还有项目，我只能是做最好的准备，同时也做好最坏的打算！希望明年有更好的机会，希望在明天！</p>
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